The Pathway Papers are here

Amber and the Flood

Copyright 2004 G.R. Morton  This can be freely distributed so long as no changes are made and no charges are made.

http://home.entouch.net/dmd/amber.htm Free Web Counter
Free Hit Counter Visitors to these pages since 12-29-97


Related Pages:
600,000 years of not sweeping the floor-The Soils of Beijing
Carbonate Hardgrounds Disprove Global Flood
Time Sequence in Pebbles-Conglomerates in Conglomerates
Time in the Flood--Seismic and the Great Stone Dome
While the Flood Rages, Termites dig, Dinosaurs Dance and Cicadas Sing
It Sure Was Hot in the Global Flood
Wilcox Coals and the Floating Forest/VeggieMat Young-earth Theories
Igneous History of British Isles Won't Fit Into Global Flood
Texas Ellenburger Caves Show Global Flood is Impossible
Difunta Group Argues Against Global Flood
North Sea Rocks Refute Young-Earth Arguments
Haymond Formation with Thousands of Burrows
How Long Ago was the Flood?
Runaway Subduction is a Sham
Delicate Insects Not Destroyed by Turbulent Global Flood
Amber and the Flood
Going to the Bathroom in the Global Flood
How fossilization occurs
Steve Austin's Grand Canyon Argument:Methematical Sleight of Hand
Unconformities and the Global Flood
How Overthrusts occur
Desert Varnish--evidence of 300 Years in the Geologic Column
Pollen Order in Varves Presents Problems for Global Flood
Flood articles
Buried River Channels in the Geologic Column
Rock Physical Properties Vary With Age of Fossils They Contain
Why Carbon 14 Dating Works
The Appalachian Mountains Show the Need for Much Time
Canyons Buried in the Fossil Record show Global Flood Impossible
Ten years of Plant Growth found 7000 Feet Down in Colorado
Mercury Poisoning in the Global Flood
Misguided Erosion argument
Too Many Fossils Found on Earth for Global Flood
Meteoritic Dust Found in Salt--Proves Slow Deposition
Oil Well Cores and the Global Flood
Castile Formation Shows Waters Were Calm During Global Flood
Too Many Meteors in the Flood Year.
Limestone Shows Slow Deposition
Burrows Show Slow Deposition
Canadian Coal not Formed Catastrophically
Why Clastic Dykes don't indicate a Global Flood
The Multiple Droughts in the Global Flood
Creationist Misuse of the Green River Formation
Jonathan Clarke's Discussion of Paleosols
The Real Poop on the Global Flood
Tracks and Raindrop, Hail and Ice Impressions Demonstrates Slow Deposition
The Letter the Creation Research Society Quarterly Didn't Want You to See
Theology articles

Amber has fascinated mankind for at least 10,000 years. Amber is the fossilized resin of pine trees and its existence presents problems for the young-earth view point.

Much of the following is taken from http://www.gplatt.demon.co.uk/baltic.htm

Lets start with why we think amber is fossilized resin. Amber contains a chemical called succinic acid. Most pine trees have resin which lacks succinic acid and that has caused some to doubt whether or not the amber is from fossilized trees. But recently two genera of pines have been found which have resin containing succinic acid. These are Keteleeria and Pseudolarix. Today, Pseudolarix is found in forests of eastern China. But its connection with amber comes from the discovery of Pseudolarix pine cones in amber on Axel Heidelberg Island in northern Canada, and it contains succinic acid.

Ninety percent of the Baltic Amber production comes from the southwestern part of the Baltic sea. A 1280 sq. km area produces most of the amber from a bed called Blue Earth. When storms rage in the Baltic, currents stir up the sea floor, and amber floats to the surface and then drifts to the beaches where it is picked up.

The amber collected in this region because there was a huge pre-glacial forest covering Scandinavia with trees, probably of the Pseudolarix genus. When the resin oozed out of the tree, some insects, tree parts etc were trapped and covered with the resin. The soft resin was then washed down two rivers, the Alnarp and the Eridanos. These rivers no longer exist, but like the river channels I have shown in the geologic column (see pic below for an example from Oklahoma at 10,000 feet down), one can trace the course of these rivers in the geologic column.


The river deltas were in what is now the SE Baltic and NE Poland and it is there that they deposited the soft resin on the bottom of the sea. It is from this that a very few marine fossils were covered in the soft resin and then turned into amber with burial and time.

Below is a bee from my personal collection.


The preservation is great. Notice the hair on the leg of this bee.

Here are two other insects the first is a small wasp the second looks like a mosquito from my collection. The 2nd pic is a bit fuzzy but it is the best I could do.



And I have an nematoceran fly in Baltic Amber. (originally I mis- identified this as a spider. Mark Isaac pointed out my error. Thanks.  


The issues raised by amber insects for the global flood advocates are these.

1.Amber is not found in any rocks earlier than the Carboniferous (1 ancient unsubstantiated report-J. Smith Trans. Geol. Soc. Glasgow, 1894). This is strange since according to the global flood view, resin generating trees should have been on earth in the pre-flood world.

2.Amber is only found in deposits of the later parts of the global flood. How did the trees grow and ooze resin during the later stages of the flood and why didn’t they do it earlier? Even if we have the upper parts of the geologic column as a recolonisation model, it still leaves unanswered why there is no amber from the pre-flood world which would land it in the Cambrian?

3.Amber fossils take time to form. The tree must ooze the resin, the insect must subsequently become entrapped in the resin, the now fossiliferous but still soft resin must be transported to the river delta to be buried. And then there is time required for the resin to turn into amber.

4.The rivers of that age which are detectable in the geologic column, also would take time. How could this happen during a period when 50-100 feet per day of sediment was being dumped on the floor of the global flood ocean?

5. This argument is from a friend named SedRocks on TheologyWeb, who pointed out that someone Eocene insects end up in Eocene amber, Oligocene insects end up in Oligocene amber and Miocene insects end up in Miocene amber. The question he raises is how does the global flood sort the similar sized bobs of amber according to the insects contained within it?   That is a question no young-earther tried to answer.

The YEC explanation simply falls flat on its face. It has no explanatory power at all. Unless of course, some YEC wishes to explain the data.

 

Back to DMD Publishing Home Page